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Yes, we need to update it. No, it should not be updated.
Debate Score:37
Arguments:32
Total Votes:75
Ended:06/02/18
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Topic #1: Do we need to update the second amendment for a modern society?

Yes, we need to update it.

Side Score: 19
Winning Side!
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No, it should not be updated.

Side Score: 18
1 point

Closing Statement: This is why the this amendment should be changed and deeply looked into. The deaths of innocent people due to firearms should not be allowed and banned in the US. The right to bear arms should be for self defense and not to kill a person or go and wipe out an innocent school for no reason. it should be changed

Side: Yes, we need to update it.
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Opening Statement: The second amendment should be changed. It’s dangers are harmful towards thousands of families in the United States of America. By changing the amendment, thousands of lives will be saved.

Side: Yes, we need to update it.
Paulitism(3) Disputed
1 point

You have forgotten the importance of adding the words "opening statement" to your satement.

Side: No, it should not be updated.
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Argument 1: The amendment to bear arms was signed in 1791. But bearing arms back then had a completely different meaning to what it is today. Back then you could only be allowed to have a musket or a knife or a bat. A musket is a shotgun that takes a really long time to reload and you could roughly shoot about 3 bullets every minute.Now people have access to assault rifles, machine guns, g18c and many other ones which is way it should be more restricted. The amendment had been severely overpowered and one shot from one of those weapon is most likely an instead death.These guns are the reason why citizens of the us are suffering, back then it was not a problem now it is a massive one.

Supporting Evidence: Minnpost.com (www.minnpost.com)
Side: Yes, we need to update it.
Daniel151 Disputed
1 point

Although we have access to much more dangerous weaponry the most common form of assault is a handgun not a machine gun which would only be used for mass shootings and handguns appear more often than other guns

Supporting Evidence: source (checkyourfact.com)
Side: No, it should not be updated.
Paulitism(3) Disputed
1 point

Although those weapons are dangerous and cause many mass shootings, guns aren't the only wars people are mass murdered. In fact, with access to such powerful weapons, only 65% of murders are by use of a firearm. This means that it is a person's choice to use a firearm or any weapon to commit murder. Mass shooting could be replaced with bombs, arson, bioterrorism, or vehicular assault. These are all equally as deadly ways of terrorism and guns aren’t the only weapons that could be used in this way. In fact, the most deadly attacks in history are bombings and vehicle assault/hijacking.

Supporting Evidence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States (www.statisticbrain.com)
Side: No, it should not be updated.
Paulitism(3) Disputed
0 points

Although those weapons are dangerous and cause many mass shootings, guns aren't the only wars people are mass murdered. In fact, with access to such powerful weapons, only 65% of murders are by use of a firearm. This means that it is a person's choice to use a firearm or any weapon to commit murder. Mass shooting could be replaced with bombs, arson, bioterrorism, or vehicular assault. These are all equally as deadly ways of terrorism and guns aren’t the only weapons that could be used in this way. In fact, the most deadly attacks in history are bombings and vehicle assault/hijacking.

Supporting Evidence: Murder statistics (www.statisticbrain.com)
Side: No, it should not be updated.
0 points

By banning firearms, school shootings will decline because children and teens do not have the ability to control themselves as much as adults. That is the reason why cigarettes, alcohol, lottery tickets are banned for kids. However even adults can’t control themselves with guns, kids are allowed guns. That is extremely dangerous because kids do have less self control. A lot of school shootings are done by students and banning guns will help decline school shootings.

Supporting Evidence: Source (www.businessinsider.com)
Side: Yes, we need to update it.
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Argument #2: The murder rate due to gun violence in the US is 15 times higher than 1st world countries. This means that the murder rates in the US due to guns are higher than any countries in the world. For example 29.7 people are killed by guns in every 100,000 people. However, the second highest country with gun rates only has 7.7 people killed in every 100,000 people. To decline these murder rates, we can take a look at Australia's and the UK's example. Australia and The UK have experienced gun massacres and made stricter gun laws. Their murder rate have declined. US can use that to decline murder rates. For example Australia. After a huge gun massacre the government has changed the law. As a result the murder rate in Australia has declined by a lot.

Supporting Evidence: Source (www.americamagazine.org)
Side: Yes, we need to update it.
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Arguement 2 : There would be no change in access to guns by banning them from normal citizens and having only restricted to the army. It is the same with drugs, millions of people get access to them even though they are banned even 36.8 millions kids aged 12 and up had access to drugs and in 2004 there were only 12,116 arrests. What would stop an equal amount of people getting access to guns and committing a mass shooting. Also, wouldn’t the crime rate go up if there are tons of people getting in trouble for having a gun or doing something wrong with it.

Supporting Evidence: Source/Link (skywoodrecovery.com)
Side: No, it should not be updated.
ahmedsohail(4) Disputed
1 point

What you are saying is that 12,116 have been arrested, This is not a small amount and as crime rate has gone up in every month of the year 2018 there has been tens of school shooting severely injuring people or even causing them to die. This is due to any person of nearly any age having access on any weapon of their choice. There have been over 22 school shootings over the past 5 months.

Supporting Evidence: (cnn.com) (edition.cnn.com)
Side: Yes, we need to update it.
1 point

Supporting Ahmed's argument, Gun control is needed to make students study in a safe environment. Kids in the US are frightened due to the threat of guns. Gun control is needed to keep the kids and the teachers safe. Many kids and teachers in the United States of America are frightened due to the threat of school shootings. Every kids needs the opportunity to get the best quality of education.

Supporting Evidence: Source (www.newsobserver.com)
Side: Yes, we need to update it.
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Closing Statement: The Second Amendment still shouldn't be updated for it wouldn't change anything and would make defending yourself much more difficult. Guns give the citizens a sense of safety and protection compared to other ways. In the end, having guns is better than not

Side: No, it should not be updated.
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Opening Statement : The Second Amendment shouldn’t be updated for a modern society because people should be able to defend themselves by use of a weapon. Although they could be dangerous: robbery and kidnapping crimes have gone down a lot.

Side: No, it should not be updated.
-1 points

Argument 1: Crime rates have steadily gone down in recent years due to the popularity of sale of portable handguns Resulting in an 8.5% reduction in murder and 7% of aggravated assault. For example, In 2016 Terry Wallace attempted to rob a Rolex store with his friend, but everyone in the building had a gun and was able to hold him until the police arrived. So, crime is going down because citizens own guns.

https://connectusfund.org/8-big-pros-and-cons-of-the-2nd-amendment

Side: No, it should not be updated.
shihyung04 Disputed
1 point

About 32,000 americans die every year because of guns. About 87 people dies everyday due to guns in the US. The rates of death is the highest in all of the countries in the world. The argument was that murder rates have declined. However, 87 people still dies everyday. If the United States of America bans guns, crime and murder rates will significantly decline.

Supporting Evidence: Link (theweek.com)
Side: Yes, we need to update it.
Paulitism(3) Disputed
0 points

There are 480,000 yearly deaths every year due to SMOKING. That means that there are things that are way easier to access and are more deadly than a firearm.

Supporting Evidence: Smoking stats (www.cdc.gov)
Side: Yes, we need to update it.
Daniel151 Disputed
-1 points

Of those 32,000 some of them are suicides which could be done in different ways from your source

Side: No, it should not be updated.
ahmedsohail(4) Disputed
0 points

The rate of assault and kidnapping may have reduced. But that does not mean that citizens are not dying. In fact in the period of 1979-1997 over 651,500 Americans were killed due to gun violence. While from the period 1990-2015 over 800,000 people have been killed. This proves that due to the evolvement of weapons the amendment has become extremely overpowered and any citizen can have access on some of the most dangerous guns in the world.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/258913/number-of-firearm-deaths-in-the-united-states/

Supporting Evidence: Data (www.vakkur.com)
Side: Yes, we need to update it.